Danish gambit ?
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Danish gambit ?
I'm wondering why so much people are playing the Danish Gambit as white, i.e. giving d4,c3,b2 pawns in exchange of freedom of movement on queeside.
I ask this because i find a lot of opponents playing it against me, and it's generally not very successful.
Here is the typical way i answer to it, giving chess with bishop, and take the knight in order to avoid let the bishop hanging if white queen gives check, then defend with the knight manoeuver Nf6,Ne4,Ng5 on the kingside.
After that the game is pretty balanced but often white is doing a mistake angry that his gambit didn't worked out, and in the hurry to concretise goes wrong.
It is the case in this game also.
What do you think of this opening, do you meet it often also ?
Do you really think it's dangerous or not ?
I ask this because i find a lot of opponents playing it against me, and it's generally not very successful.
Here is the typical way i answer to it, giving chess with bishop, and take the knight in order to avoid let the bishop hanging if white queen gives check, then defend with the knight manoeuver Nf6,Ne4,Ng5 on the kingside.
After that the game is pretty balanced but often white is doing a mistake angry that his gambit didn't worked out, and in the hurry to concretise goes wrong.
It is the case in this game also.
What do you think of this opening, do you meet it often also ?
Do you really think it's dangerous or not ?
HangingKing- International Master
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Re: Danish gambit ?
For some reason i do not manage to display the Chessflash diagram ???
Here is the line i choose most of the time.
1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+ 6. Nc3 Bxc3+ 7.
Bxc3 Nf6 8. e5 Ne4 9. Qd5 Ng5 10. e6 Nxe6 11. Bxg7 Rg8 12. Bh6 Qf6 0-1
NB : but if you want to take no risk at all, the 2 following continuations are also very good for black.
- 6... Nc6 the game is now locked
- 5... d5 schlechter defense (lead to queen exchange)
Whatever, i don't really see the any tremendous advantage for white, and in practice it usally goes bad for my opponents, thus i don't understand why so many people play it...
Here is the line i choose most of the time.
1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+ 6. Nc3 Bxc3+ 7.
Bxc3 Nf6 8. e5 Ne4 9. Qd5 Ng5 10. e6 Nxe6 11. Bxg7 Rg8 12. Bh6 Qf6 0-1
NB : but if you want to take no risk at all, the 2 following continuations are also very good for black.
- 6... Nc6 the game is now locked
- 5... d5 schlechter defense (lead to queen exchange)
Whatever, i don't really see the any tremendous advantage for white, and in practice it usally goes bad for my opponents, thus i don't understand why so many people play it...
HangingKing- International Master
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Re: Danish gambit ?
Does the course have a recommendation against the Danish? I guess since they recommend the Scandinavian it is moot.
Sorry I don't have any thoughts I am avoiding any opening stuff for a while. Seems like a good question for chesspub.
Sorry I don't have any thoughts I am avoiding any opening stuff for a while. Seems like a good question for chesspub.
Re: Danish gambit ?
I don't know chesspub.
What is the forum orientation ?
What is the forum orientation ?
HangingKing- International Master
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Re: Danish gambit ?
Check it out:
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl
If you want great opening discussion, that's the place.
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl
If you want great opening discussion, that's the place.
Re: Danish gambit ?
Well after a year of ICS course, i gave back the Danish gambit a try, but as white (attacking side) and the result is quite satisfying.
I applied simple principles learned, king in the center, advance in dvp, keep the initiative and with 1 or 2 innacuracies from the opponent, the game finished quickly.
I was skeptical about this opening, because as black most of the time i was finding some good defense, but with more experience i think it's still playable.
I applied simple principles learned, king in the center, advance in dvp, keep the initiative and with 1 or 2 innacuracies from the opponent, the game finished quickly.
I was skeptical about this opening, because as black most of the time i was finding some good defense, but with more experience i think it's still playable.
HangingKing- International Master
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Re: Danish gambit ?
Nice game! Well done :-)
BorgQueen- Grandmaster
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Re: Danish gambit ?
As a 1...e5 player against e4 I've faced this quite a few times in over the board play.
I never accept the gambit though. After 3.c3 I always tranpsose to the Goring Gambit with ...d5!?. I've had ok results against it, although I lost a horrible game once when I snatched a pawn as Black but left my king in the centre to do so and got murdered.
I think the last two times I've faced this I've drawn both games, although I've been much better, and should have played on to try for a win. Like you I wouldn't use this in my reportoire for White, seems like a weak opening that relies on catching you opponent by suprise.
I never accept the gambit though. After 3.c3 I always tranpsose to the Goring Gambit with ...d5!?. I've had ok results against it, although I lost a horrible game once when I snatched a pawn as Black but left my king in the centre to do so and got murdered.
I think the last two times I've faced this I've drawn both games, although I've been much better, and should have played on to try for a win. Like you I wouldn't use this in my reportoire for White, seems like a weak opening that relies on catching you opponent by suprise.
Bilbo- International Master
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Re: Danish gambit ?
can someone give a good anti-danish gambit line with a demo like hanginging king has done.
The anti-danish should be something like the gambit is accepted and after that.
I have messed up many a times while playing as black after accepting the gambit.
The anti-danish should be something like the gambit is accepted and after that.
I have messed up many a times while playing as black after accepting the gambit.
kingsmasher1- Club Player
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Re: Danish gambit ?
I often defend this way for the Danish Gambit.
This is inferior to the schlechter defense, but far easier to remember the moves.
Basically after the pawns exchange you give check with your dark square bishop and take the white knight immediately, this gives you tempo to castle.
Then don't be afraid for your Nf6 knight, it has 2 good squares Ne4 or Ng5 depending on what white does.
At the end of this variation you will be 2 pawns up, but your developpement is miserable, nevertheless it is not too hard to regain quietly a more confortable position, and later the pawns up will play in your favor.
This is only a suggestion.
I play this way only because it is easy to remember the line.
HangingKing- International Master
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Re: Danish gambit ?
@HangingQueen: Thank you so much. That was useful.
Sorry for reverting back late, was caught up with job change related stuffs.
Sorry for reverting back late, was caught up with job change related stuffs.
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