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Philidor Pirc.

Post by hoopy on May 22nd 2009, 5:19 pm

This may seem an unusual post given that
a) My intention is to use the course to move from e4 to having a d4 repertoire
b) I have never played anyone who has played the "Philidor pirc"

Anyway.
Why does the analysis end on a move for black. If it were a repertoire for white should it not always end in a white move?
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Re: Philidor Pirc.

Post by HangingKing on May 22nd 2009, 9:03 pm

Can you precise what you call the Phillidor-Pirc.
Is it a game like this where e4 is answered by d6 :
1. e4 d6
2. d4 Nf6
3. Nc3 e5

Or something more like this one, where it hesitates between the phillidor and the pirc and can eventually transpose to a Nimzovitch after d4.
1. e4 e5
2. Bc4 Nf6
3. Nf3 d6
4. Nc3

I googled it by there is no clear response.

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Re: Philidor Pirc.

Post by hoopy on May 23rd 2009, 5:13 am

It was your fisrt cjoice. I confess I had not heard of it either. My issue was not so much about the openbeing itself by why a repertoire should leave you trying to work out a response to the opponenets move. I have a few cases where I have seen a "gap" in the repertoire. Maybe we should list these and collectively ask ICS for a view?
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Re: Philidor Pirc.

Post by Randy on May 23rd 2009, 8:05 am

hoopy wrote:
Anyway.
Why does the analysis end on a move for black. If it were a repertoire for white should it not always end in a white move?
I think that is supposed to end after move 15.Ne2, as a reference is given a game.

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Re: Philidor Pirc.

Post by Randy on May 23rd 2009, 8:16 am

hoopy wrote:It was your fisrt choice. I confess I had not heard of it either.
Technically, it is a Philidor. It is called Philidor-Pirc because it arrives via the Pirc move order. By doing so, black avoids some variations possible after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf6, for example 4. dxe5 Nxe4 5.Qd5, quite annoying, 67% for white in Megadatabase 2009. Svidler, Morozevich, Radjabov play on the black side from time to time.

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